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In Episode 28, Melissa talks with Jannet (Jan) Carmichael, a Past President of the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP) and trailblazer on cutting edge pharmacy practice. Recorded to celebrate Women’s History Month, they talk about her innovations with the VA system along with her experience serving as a role model for other women early in her career. Jan reflects on strengths based leadership and how it works in training pharmacy residents. The transformational leadership legacy of ASHP CEO Emeritus Dr. Joseph A Oddis also is discussed.